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A Christian and an Atheist Walk into a Cult

So, the polls are in and the vote has been counted. If you double checked the results to make sure I’m keeping my word, you may be surprised. At this time I’m choosing the topic of my choice. Much like the election of 2000, I care not for my voters but only for the super secret delegate system that was too confusing for me to explain in the first place. Trust me, it’s better this way.

I’m not sure how to start this post so I guess I’ll just jump right in. I don’t care for either of the main two Presidential Nominees. I care so little for them it upsets me to think that people don’t know there are more than two to vote for today. It also upsets me to think that there are people that are NOT going to vote just because they don’t want to choose between the shinier of two turds. There are more positions and issues to vote for other than the POTUS. All are just as important.

English: Ballot Box showing preferential voting
English: Ballot Box showing preferential voting (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

I’ve seen several people today asking where they are supposed to vote [in our area]. This is also upsetting. Good job for getting out there to vote, today, but if you would have voted in the primaries you would have known where your voting location is. This tells me that voting is only important enough for you to do so once every two or four years. Shame.

Some people talk about knowing the issues and studying the candidates. This is good. I give you props. Other people should be more like this. But, this is not a prerequisite for voting. Everyone allowed to vote should vote, regardless of their knowledge, or lack there of. About half of the people eligible to vote did so in 2008. The closer this number moves towards 100% the better our choices will become. Vote…for something….for anything. If you don’t study, shame, but still vote. It is your right, privilege, and duty. (If you weren’t taught this consider this a lesson)

Religion has played a large part in the last two elections, whether we know so or not. In 2008 we were told, many times, that Obama was a Muslim. This talk has quieted down a bit, but it’s still around. (And not true) Many people are concerned with the idea of Romney being in a Cult, which is also not true.

I’m tired of people thinking that all Republicans are a gun totting, rich, white, redneck, women hating, fundamental christian type of people. And…that all Democrats are all a pot smoking, baby killing, hippie, God hating, gay type of people. Do some of these words fit into the prospective spots? Sure, but some fit into the other side as well. Grow up people, quit trying to group others together for your own sake.

Let’s look at something real quick. A great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad. Do you know what this is? This is one of the definitions of a Cult. Look familiar?

In 2008 many people saw Obama as a sort of Savior, including me. I was drawn in. I was privy to the idea of having HOPE and making CHANGE. It didn’t happen, but I don’t regret that vote. Many people now are doing the same thing with Romney (trust me, I know). I will not allow myself to get caught up in that sort of thing again. It’s almost as if people are starting to join the Democrat Cult or the Republican Cult. Not I. If I thought either one of these guys could really make a difference, I would vote for them. I don’t think either can, so I won’t.

I am equally frustrated by religious zealots as I am self promoting, angry, atheist. This is the spectrum that many people see Republicans and Democrats as nowadays. There is a bumper sticker I’ve seen that says “I love Jesus, it’s his followers I don’t care for.” I feel the same way some times. I also don’t like hearing the “well, of course it’s this way….” argument from the non-believers. You can be just as condescending when you’re not sitting on a white horse. Fundamentalist Christian Weirdos – Get out of your own way. Quit letting God get in the way of your humanity. Angry Non-Believers – If you promote peace and love quit getting upset just cause someone says they do believe. No matter what you believe (creation or evolution) we are all brothers and sisters. (Think about it) Lets treat each other that way.

I’m not sure but I think this is a horrible, jumbled post. Sorry for that. I’ve been working on it in between other duties I had to fulfill. (I said duties.)

If this make any sense at all please comment. If not, comment anyway.

25 thoughts on “A Christian and an Atheist Walk into a Cult

  1. Sorry son, but “voting being a right and privilege” is ok by me but when I hear about “duty” that belies the previous descriptions and becomes a bit totalitarian. Can’t accept any more government assigned duties learned that in my military/hippie days (and nights).

  2. Okay, I totally voted for this idea AFTER you had already written this. Some would say I have magical psychic abilities.

    It’s strange how religion has played such a huge part since, in theory, a person can have beliefs without it affecting their job performance. I certainly don’t go around saying, “Here is this spreadsheet that was generated by an agnostic.” It’s ridiculous.

    Still, if you’re staunch in your beliefs, and you want to find a way to hate a person, you will.

  3. I couldn’t agree more with paragraph 6… but there is always a lot of hypocrisy when it comes to politics. A lot, a lot. We all point fingers while three fingers point back.

    Speaking of concepts we learn as children, my son asked me “Mommy, will anything be different tomorrow?”. And of course I answered the truth. “No honey, politics are complicated. The main thing that changes is our perceptions.”

  4. On one hand, i was impressed with how many people i saw at the polls today. On the other hand, the contrast between today’s turnout and the turnout at the past, say, dozen elections i’ve voted in, is truly dismal. There’s usually hardly anyone there during primaries or other non-presidential elections. I am NOT big into politics, especially because of the mudslinging and negativity that often accompanies it, but I agree with you – everyone who can should get out and vote. It’s a great privilege that should preserve our freedom.

    1. Yes, and I think there might be less mudslinging IF more people voted. Better candidates would mean more emphasis on the issues and not so much on how terrible the other guy is.

  5. “Angry Non-Believers ā€“ If you promote peace and love quit getting upset just cause someone says they do believe”

    Love this part. While I am not a religious person, I have never agreed with hating those who believe. What I disagree with, is with the idea of religion telling its followers that they are better than the rest.

    Well said!

      1. Yes, I may not call it a sin but in this case it’s just semantics, methinks. No matter what one calls it, it is still wrong. Nobody is better than the rest. We all have flaws, we all make mistakes but we are also all capable of wonderful things. Like you said, we are all brothers and sisters, regardless of skin colour or different ideologies. People forget that way too easily šŸ˜¦

  6. We are all fighting a losing battle when it comes to politics it seems. I do, however, have a thought about voting for voting’s sake. I am one of those horrid people who does not study up as I knowingly should. I don’t have cable, and when I am on the internet, you know where I am. Come on, you bloggers put out too much good content for me to have time for anything else.

    Anyway, that being said, I am obviously uninformed politically. Any information I hear from friends and family in passing can’t be taken as fact either in my mind. So, I didn’t cast an uneducated vote *dodges flying tomato and pitchforks*. I don’t think a bunch of blind votes from people like me is helping the right candidate be elected. Isn’t that the big picture? Isn’t saying I should have voted anyway just because it is exercising my right like saying that homosexual couples should all run to the altar now that they have finally gained the right to marry in some states?

    I would like to make a conscious effort to be more informed in the coming elections and participate in voting, but for this year, I believe I made the right choice by not. Just throwing out my thoughts. My thinking could be very warped. I drank too much diet coke today.

    1. I don’t think the point is that an uneducated vote is not helping choose the right candidate. What I’m trying to say is that more people voting will cause us to have better candidates to choose from. You (women) have had the right to vote for about 100 years now, right? Homosexual couples have had the right to marry (in some states) for one day. These aren’t the same things, and probably shouldn’t be compared. People don’t run out and vote as soon as the turn 18. And even if you didn’t study the candidates there were, more than likely, ballot issues that people can still vote for. The issues are, more or less, spelled out for you and help you make a decision. The main point is, just because you don’t know which President to choose doesn’t mean you don’t have anything to offer at the voting booth. Thanks for the comment.

  7. I think a big problem with the candidates is information. How do we get that information and how do we know who to trust about it? It’s almost like finding about about a new TV show, you have to combine everything you hear then give it a whirl then hopefully you made the right move to watch Cougartown.

    Presidential nominees are never good anyway. It always seems to come down to voting against the other guy instead of for someone you want to win. In my opinion the United States is entirely too big to be run with one figure head. Other big countries like Russia or China couldn’t manage it without their share of problems. Even the ancient empires had to go through a ton until they collapsed. So basically, there’s no right or wrong and nobody has a clue how to fix it or make everyone happy. How’s that for a scary story?

    1. Well, season one Cougartown was pretty good. Season two was lacking, or at least I thought so. I’m not sure how it’s going now.

      “Everyone” will never be happy because “everyone” doesn’t want the same thing. It is scary though. The good thing is America isn’t trying to take over the world. Well, at least not openly like they did in the ancient times. I think there is a way to fix it, and that there are people who know how. The only problem is these people will never be popular, until Americans start realizing this. That will take some time.

  8. Brother Jon:

    First of all, congratulations on winning the Good Greatsby Halloween caption contest. I’m not mad at all that you beat me out. No, not at all. Just ignore those zombies outside your door.

    I happen to be one of those weird people who think that selecting the lesser of two evils is not itself evil. We often face dilemmas – a Hobson’s choice, a Sophie’s choice, a Catch 22, a double bind – where either selection is unappealing. It should be a testament to our action, values and knowledge that we make a selection, however poor, rather than make no selection at all.

    C-a-L

    1. Oh, did I win that? I hadn’t noticed. *evil laughing*

      You know, I’m pretty sure I don’t have a problem with that. I was giving my reasons for not voting for either one. If you feel you need to that have at it. I agree to the whole “testament to our action, values and knowledge…” part also.

  9. I try to be as informed as I can, but there are always a few things on the ballot that surprise me. (I didn’t know I would be voting for a sherrif, for example) My friend and I were discussing today that she feels the 2 parties make it easy for people to be lazy. No need to get informed, just vote R or D and the job is done. I think it also causes the people we elect to not represent us as well because of all the pressure to toe the party line.

  10. I’m not just saying this but this was the best blog post about the election I read. Modest, factual, and impartial. Seeing some of the things people were saying on Facebook made me upset and I wanted to root against both candidates and see America die it was so obnoxious and drull.

    I will say though that I dated a girl and when I asked her what her father’s named was she replied “Hussein.” Of course I quivered a little bit but I had enough sense to know they’re not related. Please tell me who this person was so I can convince them I am Danny Boyle’s brother, Peter Boyle’s son, and Susan Boyle’s lover.

    Really great job Brother Jon and I’m not just blowing smoke.

    1. Thank you very much. It means a lot to me. (Looks like you came back for a second time.)

      I would tell you, but I’m not sure if they would know who we’re talking about. Of the top of my head I’m thinking ‘Director’ ‘Young Frankenstein’ and ‘Scottish singer’. That is some good company. Sure you’re not related?

      1. Crap this comment was supposed to be about your most recent post. It’s tough reading blogs with a half opened screen trying to hide it from your boss as she walks by. I’m going to copy and paste it over there so everyone can see. Let’s pretend this never happened. Shhhh.

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